Arguing with a D1 Pitching Coach about Leg Drive

Baseball Pitching Mechanics - Leg Drive
Leg Drive – Does it increase pitching velocity? If so, how do you teach it?

Last night a buddy of mine, who was also a roommate and the best pitching coach I’ve ever had, texted me to let me know he was coming into town.  He is a Division 1 College Pitching Coach and his team is playing near my home and wanted to see if I would go hang out.  Making plans took only a second, but what followed was an hour or so of discussion on pitching mechanics and leg drive specifically.

I want to post the texts because I think there is a lot of valuable information in there about pitching mechanics and leg drive and I also think it’s great to see it from two different perspectives.


Pitching Mechanics Delivery Leg Drive King of the Hill Trainer

My messages are in the blue bubbles.

I first sent him a link to a youtube video I made about the King of the Hill Trainer which is a pitching device that helps develop and teach leg drive within the pitching delivery.  Here is the link I sent him in case you want to check it out:

In the blur I was referring to another pitching aid that does something similar but I used some language I’d rather not post on the internet 😉

My friend says that he’s never been a gimmick guy and neither have I.  But if there is a tool out there that I think will help a pitcher, then I will definitely give it a try.


So, then we started talking about how this thing works.  I can tell that he is not completely sold on the idea because he says he “almost fully agrees”.

He is absolutely right about the foot rolling, but I would choose to describe it as (now looking back at our conversation) the foot and ankle extending and rotating at the same time.


In this text screen shot you can see that he is starting to come around.

I said that I don’t feel any pressure, but now looking back on what I wrote, I would like to add that I feel tired in my right hip after doing a bunch of these.  But during it, I didn’t really feel it anywhere specifically.  It just felt like a good pitching delivery (to me).

I added a picture of Matt Moore, MLB pitcher for the Tampa Bay Rays, to try to explain where I feel like I hear the clicking noise in my delivery.

I love Matt Moore’s pitching mechanics.  I think he is a great example of how to throw hard.

IMG_1912My friend talks about feeling pressure in your groin if you push off correctly after foot strike and land back correctly.  I never really thought about that, but when he mentioned it I thought about it and do feel a stretch in my groin when pitching.  I’ve never hurt my groin from pitching and didn’t ever get overly sore there from pitching, but since he has said that, I have been noticing that stretch in my groin when I go through my delivery.  So, again he has taught me something new.

I posted another picture of Matt Moore here just for clarification on when I believe the King of the Hill will click (or not click) if done properly.

In this picture, I believe that Matt is still riding his angle or using his momentum down the mound and not pushing or using leg drive just yet.  The first picture, however, I believe is the start of leg drive.

IMG_1913My friend then sends a pic of Roger Clemens where he thinks you would hear the click.  That’s like an automatic trump card using The Rocket to explain pitching mechanics.

He’s actually right, but I believe at this point it would be hearing the unclicking on the King of the Hill Trainer that you would hear and that this is towards the end of leg drive.

For example, leg drive would happen between Matt Moore’s first picture and this Roger Clemens picture.

IMG_1914Just to clarify, I had to pull up some of my own images of Roger Clemens in the positions I was trying to explain.  So the first one is around where I believe leg drive begins and where you would hear your first click.

The second image (that you will see in the next screenshot) is where I believe that leg drive ends and where you would hear the unclicking of the King of the Hill.

IMG_1915So, after all of this text messaging, we realize that we are agreeing on how the pitching mechanics work.  He has just never used a product to help teach this idea or feeling within the pitching delivery.

IMG_1916So then I explain how I think it could help his pitchers.









Here’s a 2 second video of the click and unclick noise IMG_1905

I realized that he may think I was trying to get him to buy one (since I have them for sale on my website  But that was not my intentions.  I really wanted him to know how much I loved this product and that I thought it could help his pitchers if used correctly.

IMG_1918In the end, he makes some really good points about teaching pitching and leg drive that I really agree with.

Some other pitching coaches feel the same way because recently the Houston Astros, Chicago Cubs, Kansas Wesleyan, and Madonna have purchased a King of the Hill and Ohio State, Indiana University, Manchester College, and Purdue University have all showed interested in the King of the Hill.

The King of the Hill Trainer is brand new to the baseball market (January 2014) so I’m sure you will be seeing a lot more of it soon.  Just remember where you saw it first.

If you’re interested in getting your own King of the Hill Trainer, please support my website by purchasing yours there.  If you email me after your order it, I will throw in a free copy of Pitching 365.

I’ll talk to you in the comments below!

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